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Fool Nalelmir
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Posted - 2015.10.15 18:00:34 -
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Really, I mean really....
Ok I can get behind a lot of things you guys try but this is just bad. Sure this game is hard to get into sure as a new player you have to take your lumps and such. But you know part of the good thing is that when you say I am a 80sp pilot or what ever it is a point of pride. I kind of feel like the last 3 years of paying for my skill training and the waiting and drooling and wishing to get to the point I am at with the ships I can fly will be a waste. I mean really whats the point. I don't know if I will unsub my accounts but if this is the way it is gonna be then maybe people are rite it will be the end at least for me. This whole everything for Aurum thing is getting way out of hand. It's getting more and more like some freemium phone app crap.
If you want to get and retain new people that's great I am all for it but this make eve easier thing can only go so far. I don't play WOW and play EVE because it is not an easy game it requires you to think and work and suck it up when you lose. If I wanted an easy button there are plenty of other choices out there.
Try this on for size,
1) we need new blood advertise. I almost never see anything about eve anywhere. Heck do a search for MMOs and eve only shows up on a fraction of the info that's out there and the game is what 12 years old. Hell make an add and put it on HULU or something. But get the word out there. I mean it is like we expect to keep the lights on by word of mouth.
2) Make more game styles in game and don't half ass it. You had the rite idea with Dust/Legion but the wrong approach. Remember back in the day the whole walk around the station thing. Expand on that. If kids want to FPS let them and let us really interact. Let them fight on planets and stations and what ever and do their version of PVE and let that stuff then create new products and items for the indy kids to build sell and move. Or even better remember this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45mlVuLs_Nw&list=PLF614A7A6461E61E1&index=19 I mean really that would have been cool getting out of the pod and having some real fun. Eve is a massive universe and you can only "balance" one game style for so long before you need to add new things other than paint jobs guys.
3) Fix the PVE that exists in eve from the same thing every time wack-a-mole joke that it is to something with more options. A day one player should be able to slowly progress threw higher and higher levels of missions, exploration and such. Missions there should be a lot more of them and more than the 4 levels for your mission runner types. And higher levels should be more and more group oriented. Sure use lowsec to add to the risk reward but don't close it all off so the only way to earn anything is to do it solo. Exploration is a good mechanic and should be built on adding more things to find. You really should have a team that does nothing more than create new missions, Anoms, Sites and what ever for players to work threw. I mean for real every major update should include new stuff for these players. This does not have to be new items or ships every time just new missions, Anoms and sites make the PVE grow and change I can't even imagine how many players we have lost because if they did the same level 4 mission or anom again they were going to rip their of eyes out.
4) PVP, new players should day one get some message, intro aura class what ever to let them know that New Eden is unforgiving place to live and get them excited about it. In Call of Duty the kids know they are progressing they know there KDR and get a idea of wow I did that. Beyond that CCP you should really push the whole EVE is hard thing not as a bad thing but as a do you have what it takes thing. Make a new player feel that pride that they are a tougher bunch then other MMO players.
p.s I plan to abuse the hell out of this if you go threw with it because I can.
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Fool Nalelmir
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Posted - 2015.10.15 18:24:03 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:a guy I know asked me, "how's eve?"
Knowing he was possibly interested in joining the game to play it with me, and me being a completely honest person I had to immediately approach the situation with truth.
"it's fun, but I've had this guy subbed for 8 months now and I'm just now getting to the point where I will soon be able to properly fly only a small fraction of available ships with the proper skills."
I can't recommend the game to him and others because I know he wont be able to actually do things with me and be a fair contributor to my goals for almost a year.
I'm egotistical and narcissistic and #thebest and all, but even I can't lie to a friend and try tricking him into joining the game when I know full well that he will be disappointed with the options available to him.
At least now I'll be able to tell him, "join now and we can grind you isk for a month and be able to start buying skills to help you get to where I am and we can both fly around space dominating dudes together".
Fair enough but there has got to be a better way that this. Lets be honest who is going to get the most from this it won't be your buddy or any other new player. They don't have the isk starting out to really afford it and who in their rite mind is going to dump hundreds of dollars to just try the game out.
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Fool Nalelmir
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Posted - 2015.10.15 18:29:01 -
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drunklies wrote:Doing this would be like selling the soul of the game. That CCP can't see that, and have gone so far as to publish a DEV BLOG about it, shows how they as a company have degraded. Last week I was looking forward to Vegas, despite the idiotic idea to not stream the 2 most important talk this entire year, but now... New players are all well and good, but vets have earned their place, and catering to bullsh*t entitlement will drive the valuable players away, without generating any real replacement. Mike Azariah wrote:For people quitting in protest I remind them that Operation Magic School Bus does accept donations to help out the new players. Yes, this is a 'can I haz' post but it is one where the material will be put to good use, not just lining a wallet or hanger. Contract to me if you wish to donate.
m Sure, let me rip all the heritage out of my characters and of eve itself, cause some mewling newbie thinks they deserve to skip past the hoops that everyone else jumped through.
I was also looking forward to Vegas before this derp I wasted money again maybe.
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Fool Nalelmir
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Posted - 2015.10.15 18:42:25 -
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You know I just had a thought.
So a new player is gonna be like I can just buy SP and then he is going to get into some ship and do all the things he can do with it in about a week. Then because he isn't the type to wait and work towards something long term will then be like well eve sucks and then move on to something else telling his buddies meh eve sucks I beat it in two weeks lol.
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Fool Nalelmir
LEX University
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Posted - 2015.10.15 18:54:48 -
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TheSmokingHertog wrote:Tiranius Avetus wrote:So you will sell time (the most valuable resource in EVE) for money.
******** idea... Nope, they will sell past time already invested in game by others, to people new into the game.
Exactly
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Fool Nalelmir
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Posted - 2015.10.15 18:58:37 -
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Eve has been rebalanced.... Players have been nerfed.  |
Fool Nalelmir
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Posted - 2015.10.15 23:59:08 -
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Ok there you go I just canceled my subscriptions. After the 231 actual days I have spent in game and the HOLY CRAP (I looked it up) thousands of dollars i have spent on this game to be told that my time and the i went threw to get to this point in eve matters less than getting some new kids that will unsub in a month cuts to dang deep. At least the folks at Star Citizen are honest about taking my money.
Now I wish i wouldn't have gotten those Eve Vegas tickets.
CCP you have till Jan to make me change my mind |
Fool Nalelmir
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Posted - 2015.10.19 21:46:16 -
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Ok,
I had a very bad reaction to this at first. I had a lot of really strong negative feelings about it but have had both some time to calm down and also been thinking about this. i have also talked to some of the "younger" guys and they are all excited about this. So here is where I am with it atm
1) I am worried that this will be cost prohibitive for actual new players. If new players join it is hard to drive the price point up with out the a fair few getting bitter faster. I think we will see a lot of new bros joining getting milked for money and leaving. But then lets be honest here for ever what 100 that join 10 are gonna stick around for the long haul so if that means that there is more money to keep the lights on so be it.
2) I really think there needs to be more content in the game to retain these people that is the core failing. Yes this is a PVP central game but adding more ways to play in the sandbox is really gonna be key.
3) I think it is foolish to think that older players will not abuse/use this but I can live with this.
4) most of the younger players are excited about this and we the "older" players should probably sit back and adapt to the new change.
5) This isn't really pay-to-win lets be honest the price point will be to high for that to really be a thing.
6) I think most of us who are complaining will come around in time. And we are already addicted we need the next generation of EVE addicts to start logging in
So CCP sorry I got all but hurt about it. keep working on it. |
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